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		<title>Comment on Ranking of railway systems by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 07:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Christina :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Christina <img src='http://www.davidgrajal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Ranking of railway systems by Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 06:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to add some links that will be useful for the independent traveler while using trains in Germany.
I think the problem is that there are many ways of getting cheaper tickets but it&#039;s sometimes hard to find out what the cheapest way would be. I think the only time you actually have to pay the full price is if you just jump onto an ICE without a ticket and buy it in the train. 
The two most important criteria for traveling cheap on the Deutsche Bahn is 
a) planning
b) avoiding the ICE (fast train) and taking the RE or RB (regional trains)

With this ticket you can travel throughout Germany whereever you want (Kiel to Munich if you wish) on one day for 42 Euros and every further person up to 5 persons costs 6 Euros.

http://www.bahn.de/regional/view/regionen/freizeit/quer-durchs-land.shtml

If you are staying within one Bundesland it will be cheaper to take a &quot;Länderticket&quot;, so e.g. you can travel everywhere in Bavaria for 21 Euros on one day. 

http://www.bahn.de/regional/view/regionen/freizeit/laendertickets.shtml

And this page here gives you a general overview of saving money with the Bahn(you can select the language at the top of the page):

http://www.bahn.de/p/view/angebot/sparpreis/spartickets.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to add some links that will be useful for the independent traveler while using trains in Germany.<br />
I think the problem is that there are many ways of getting cheaper tickets but it&#8217;s sometimes hard to find out what the cheapest way would be. I think the only time you actually have to pay the full price is if you just jump onto an ICE without a ticket and buy it in the train.<br />
The two most important criteria for traveling cheap on the Deutsche Bahn is<br />
a) planning<br />
b) avoiding the ICE (fast train) and taking the RE or RB (regional trains)</p>
<p>With this ticket you can travel throughout Germany whereever you want (Kiel to Munich if you wish) on one day for 42 Euros and every further person up to 5 persons costs 6 Euros.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bahn.de/regional/view/regionen/freizeit/quer-durchs-land.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bahn.de/regional/view/regionen/freizeit/quer-durchs-land.shtml</a></p>
<p>If you are staying within one Bundesland it will be cheaper to take a &#8220;Länderticket&#8221;, so e.g. you can travel everywhere in Bavaria for 21 Euros on one day. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bahn.de/regional/view/regionen/freizeit/laendertickets.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bahn.de/regional/view/regionen/freizeit/laendertickets.shtml</a></p>
<p>And this page here gives you a general overview of saving money with the Bahn(you can select the language at the top of the page):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bahn.de/p/view/angebot/sparpreis/spartickets.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.bahn.de/p/view/angebot/sparpreis/spartickets.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ranking of railway systems by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This ranking is for the independent traveler but it was never mentioned in the post. Independent travelers are seriously price sensitive... and the ticket at non discounted retail price is absurdly expensive. If you are living in Germany you can get a discount card and reduce up to 70% the ticket price. As trains are the de-facto only option for (land) travel for the independent tourist you need to plan in advance and stick to the plan or be flexible and pay the exorbitant tickets at retail price.  

However I agree with you on the information level. They know exactly what is going on with each train and they can optimize routes to increase the capacity. The German railway system is the core of the European goods transportation system. 

Bahn.de is a transportation monopoly. They don&#039;t have real competition on the passenger service and that&#039;s why they are more motivated to improve the service and use better technology to increase capacity and transport *more*. Germans are happy with the status quo because if they don&#039;t move a lot they just use the car and if they move a lot they buy a bahncard 50% (which is super cheap). The only people that suffer the prices are the non-packaged tourists which are a minority, they don&#039;t spend a lot and they don&#039;t have voting rights. 

It would be interesting to see statistics to see what&#039;s the percentage of tickets sold at full retail price. My guess is that it is not higher than 30% which means that they can actually reduce the price without losing profit. Railway is NOT an Airline. Being a monopoly as it is, they should use the cargo contracts (highly profitable) to subsidize the passenger service (which should always be running at a loss).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This ranking is for the independent traveler but it was never mentioned in the post. Independent travelers are seriously price sensitive&#8230; and the ticket at non discounted retail price is absurdly expensive. If you are living in Germany you can get a discount card and reduce up to 70% the ticket price. As trains are the de-facto only option for (land) travel for the independent tourist you need to plan in advance and stick to the plan or be flexible and pay the exorbitant tickets at retail price.  </p>
<p>However I agree with you on the information level. They know exactly what is going on with each train and they can optimize routes to increase the capacity. The German railway system is the core of the European goods transportation system. </p>
<p>Bahn.de is a transportation monopoly. They don&#8217;t have real competition on the passenger service and that&#8217;s why they are more motivated to improve the service and use better technology to increase capacity and transport *more*. Germans are happy with the status quo because if they don&#8217;t move a lot they just use the car and if they move a lot they buy a bahncard 50% (which is super cheap). The only people that suffer the prices are the non-packaged tourists which are a minority, they don&#8217;t spend a lot and they don&#8217;t have voting rights. </p>
<p>It would be interesting to see statistics to see what&#8217;s the percentage of tickets sold at full retail price. My guess is that it is not higher than 30% which means that they can actually reduce the price without losing profit. Railway is NOT an Airline. Being a monopoly as it is, they should use the cargo contracts (highly profitable) to subsidize the passenger service (which should always be running at a loss).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ranking of railway systems by Nacho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nacho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with your comments about the terrible and inflexible Spanish railway system I have to fully disagree with you about Germany. 

From a tourist perspective it may be as you say but once you understand all the tricks (and you consider the average salary of the country when comparing prices) the system is not so bad.

Regular travelers can get 50% always by getting the bahncard50 membership (230 euros a year). If you plan in advance you can get huge discounts which can be combined with the Bahncard25 membership (57 euros a year). Plus all the special offers (e.g. weekend ticket for groups, night trains...). The key is booking in advance.

The system is not overloaded. I&#039;m always shock about the number of options you have every day between any two cities. And booking is not mandatory, I don&#039;t book 90% of the times and I never have any problem (again the trick is knowing which trains may be potentially full which are also highlighted in the web). 

Even if it looks like, I&#039;m not pay by the Deutsche Bahn, but I&#039;m fascinated by their IT system, I have never seen anything like this. Is funny how much money Spain invest in expensive trains while they could dramatically improve the system and boost mobility by just having an information system half as good as the German one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with your comments about the terrible and inflexible Spanish railway system I have to fully disagree with you about Germany. </p>
<p>From a tourist perspective it may be as you say but once you understand all the tricks (and you consider the average salary of the country when comparing prices) the system is not so bad.</p>
<p>Regular travelers can get 50% always by getting the bahncard50 membership (230 euros a year). If you plan in advance you can get huge discounts which can be combined with the Bahncard25 membership (57 euros a year). Plus all the special offers (e.g. weekend ticket for groups, night trains&#8230;). The key is booking in advance.</p>
<p>The system is not overloaded. I&#8217;m always shock about the number of options you have every day between any two cities. And booking is not mandatory, I don&#8217;t book 90% of the times and I never have any problem (again the trick is knowing which trains may be potentially full which are also highlighted in the web). </p>
<p>Even if it looks like, I&#8217;m not pay by the Deutsche Bahn, but I&#8217;m fascinated by their IT system, I have never seen anything like this. Is funny how much money Spain invest in expensive trains while they could dramatically improve the system and boost mobility by just having an information system half as good as the German one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Auroville by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 04:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sinceresly I have no idea, I have never seen one. Don&#039;t forget to share your findings if you locate a movie speaking about auroville. Thanks for your comment!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinceresly I have no idea, I have never seen one. Don&#8217;t forget to share your findings if you locate a movie speaking about auroville. Thanks for your comment!.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Introducing the brainless man by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 04:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Stuart, since I posted this story I have even worse behavior. You are right, I should find time to stop and reflect about my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Stuart, since I posted this story I have even worse behavior. You are right, I should find time to stop and reflect about my life.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Auroville by Mikelis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 02:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.
Do you know, is there any documentary about Auraville?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.<br />
Do you know, is there any documentary about Auraville?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Introducing the brainless man by stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 22:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do seem a little dim to be honest.

It seems a little like you are an unmediated stream of consciousness, in some ways that&#039;s good but in other ways bad.

My advice is if you read a webpage, TURN AWAY from the screen and use your brain for a while, you might surprise yourself and form an opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do seem a little dim to be honest.</p>
<p>It seems a little like you are an unmediated stream of consciousness, in some ways that&#8217;s good but in other ways bad.</p>
<p>My advice is if you read a webpage, TURN AWAY from the screen and use your brain for a while, you might surprise yourself and form an opinion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guilin and Yangshuo by iconic</title>
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		<dc:creator>iconic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 09:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, it is really amazing. the scenery is much more beatiful than that on TV. Thanks very much for your sharing of these brilliant pictures.I especially love the sunset scene. Maybe sometime you can come and visit Qingdao to enjoy the seascape and the Laoshan Mountain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, it is really amazing. the scenery is much more beatiful than that on TV. Thanks very much for your sharing of these brilliant pictures.I especially love the sunset scene. Maybe sometime you can come and visit Qingdao to enjoy the seascape and the Laoshan Mountain.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guilin and Yangshuo by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 12:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, I fixed it for you. I added a couple of pictures :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, I fixed it for you. I added a couple of pictures <img src='http://www.davidgrajal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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